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Thursday, December 19, 2013

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Robertson Slurs Gays

(MSN) "Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson is under fire for bashing gays in a GQ interview in which he grouped homosexuality with "drunks" and "terrorists."

After he complained that "everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong ... sin becomes fine," the magazine asked what he considers sinful.

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there -- bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men," he said.

The remarks create a problem for A&E, the network that airs "Duck Dynasty." The show is cable's highest-rated reality show, and second-highest rated show overall after AMC's "The Walking Dead."

Also in the interview, Robertson paraphrased Corinthians: "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. ... Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."

Then he offered some thoughts about anatomy.

"It seems to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus," he said. "That's just me. I'm just thinking, 'There's more there! She's got more to offer.' I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

Robertson also said he doesn't condemn people.

"We never, ever judge someone on who's going to heaven, hell. That's the Almighty's job," he told the magazine. "We just love 'em, give 'em the good news about Jesus -- whether they're homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort 'em out later, you see what I'm saying?"

GLAAD spokesman Wilson Cruz had an immediate response.

"Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe," Cruz said. "He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans -- and Americans -- who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. Phil's decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families."

Robertson has said previously that the show downplays his religious views. He surprised some viewers earlier this year when a video emerged of him speaking out against abortion.

Then He Goes After Blacks

(LA Times)  As anyone who's watched even a few minutes of A&E's reality hit "Duck Dynasty" can tell you, Phil Robertson is a pretty conservative guy. 

But in an interview published in January's GQ Magazine, the duck call inventor and Roberston family patriarch goes on record with comments about the sinfulness of gays and black people under Jim Crow that are about as forward-thinking as his Old Testament facial hair. 

In the profile, an unedited Robertson sounds off on what's ailing the country during a trip through the Louisiana backwoods. 

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he tells reporter Drew Magary. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

He also muses rather colorfully about his own sexual orientation: “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

In a quote that may raise even more eyebrows than his feelings about gays, Robertson claims he "never" saw black people mistreated during the pre-civil rights era in his home state, and strongly suggests that African Americans were more content under Jim Crow. 

"Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash," he said. "They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.” 

Robertson also shares an interesting rationale for voting for Mitt Romney over President Obama, saying he favored the candidate because he was from Salt Lake City, a safer city than Chicago. "Where would I rather be turned around at 3 o'clock in the morning?" he said. 

Grow A Set, America!

Editorial

Sometimes being a gay man is difficult - I read ignorant comments and I find them troubling.

Not because I feel any hurt - words don't hurt me - I've grown up - words are just words.

I feel sorry for the ignorant bastards who say the words.

I know there is a cottage industry in America that has risen up over fabricating a right to not be offended.    I understand that this industry really does not wish there to be less utterances of ignorance.    For these idiots in the race-baiting, gay-hating-outrage industry only survive when they can seize upon ignorance and then exploit it for profit.

Make no mistake - these asswipes who claim to be outraged by anti-gay comments relish having the words uttered - you see - that is how these in the "hate outrage" industry get rich!

There has still been no Amendment to the Constitution that carves out a right to being free from being offended.    Just because you find FREE SPEECH to be offensive to you, that does not give you any rights for remedy.   None.   

There still is a freedom in America, like it or not, to think and to believe what you want.   There is no Gestapo state yet, though leftists would love to impose it, where you can force everyone to your narrow viewpoint - a line of thinking that only you approve.

Is the Duck Dynasty's alleged comments distasteful? 

Hell, yes!

But so what?

These statements show his ignorance.   

Just as the ignorant former MSNBC host
Alec Baldwin uttered anti-gay comments - and he is a leftist through and through.   He should have kept his gig and been made to face his stupidity.   The Duck Dynasty should be subject to the same market driven forces that force its cancellation - not from rainbow boycotts or marches by the race-pimps Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton - but by America deciding the show is no longer worth watching and its ratings tank.

I don't know what the left in this world is thinking when they preach tolerance and they show none.    Tolerance has become a code word for "only allowing what the left believes in to be uttered".    There is no "tolerance" by the left to conservative viewpoints even if those viewpoints are just as valid as leftist arguments.

How is it wrong for a straight guy to wonder how another man can dig focking a guy in the butt?    Hell, I'm gay and that isn't the least bit interesting to me either.   I've had it once and it was okay, but I'm not rushing to stick things up my arse.   

I look at vajayjay and wonder why straight guys dig that shit too.  I've had vag several times in my early life and found it to be okay as well, but sadly I had to look at a naked chick which was a potential boner killer for me.    Then I heard her and that was even more a boner killer - so I had to imagine a guy and things worked.

So what is the focking problem here, America?    So a straight guy has no clue about homosexuality.    I have no clue about loving chicks.   There is nothing about a woman I like.   Does that make me a bad person?  

As far as I can tell this Duck Dynasty guy hasn't gay bashed or abused any black person.    So if his only "crime" is that he is an ignorant bastard, oh focking well.   Ignorance isn't criminal (leftists should thank the Lord for that otherwise you all would be behind bars).

The First Amendment does not protect just speech that some groups find welcome or wonderful.   This Amendment is a broad one - that allows fools to prove they are fools and to allow as much latitude as possible to expression of thought.    As there is no right to be heard, you aren't guaranteed any audience to your words.    And if you don't like the words uttered, turn your back and leave.   Don't watch a show.   Don't read the magazine.    But you have no right to silence that person - your "offense" is not protected and not supported.    You are actually obligated to actively avoid what you find offensive, not to whine about it and to get it shut down.    Certainly you can protest, but your expression of outrage doesn't give you the right to silence jack shit.    If your expectation is to shut down what offends you, then you are pissing in the wind.   

I fully support any groups that find what was said as upsetting to you - be as free as the Duck Dynasty guy was with his words.   Exercise your freedom of speech.

And then shut the hell up.

Seriously.  Get over yourselves and let others believe as they want.   And you aren't harmed in the least.

3 comments:

  1. Is it conceivable that I agree with you AGAIN? I was appalled that A&E suspended him indefinitely for stating his opinion, shared by MANY, that homosexuality is a sin. He didn't state it eloquently, he did sound ignorant (but not quite hateful), but he is entitled within the context of his religious beliefs to hold that opinion and to state it. News anchors are expected to be savvy enough to be restrained in their comments on controversial topics in order to avoid alienating portions of their audience. But he is not one. He is a reality show star, being interviewed. Gays and friends of gays may choose not to watch the show, but I agree that a boycott of sponsors would be inappropriate, even if he had not been suspended. Free speech is a very important, cherished right in America.

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  2. I personally can't believe there are people this ignorant, but I have learned never to stand in the way of those who are ignorant having the ample chance to prove they are ignorant.

    I can't understand the draw that females have on straight males so it is not inconceivable that this guy is just being honest that he can't understand why some guys crave peen.

    I am one of those people who believe that people should not be fired because they are "perceived" to have said something offensive. If ratings plummet on the show of an ignorant person, then the marketplace has spoken and then change must come and would be appropriate.

    I find lots of things leftists say and do as being offensive, but I relish slamming them, not to lock them up and to stand them in front of a firing squad.

    The key point here is that if someone preaches "tolerance" then they should actually PRACTICE IT - and that means you don't seek to punish those who disagree with you - you actually fight to allow them to say what they are saying - and you can comment that you find those people repulsive to your values.

    Donny - as I've stated before - you and I share an understanding that we have divergent opinions, but we respect that each should be able to state those opinions and we'll agree to disagree. And, of course, sometimes it is fun to have a little dig in the arguments just for fun. Nothing personal - discrete and biting!

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  3. Someone just sent me a link to a youtube video claiming that the "Duck Dynasty" is fake. Since the person didn't have the balls to post a handle, the link is not being posted. Grow a set and man up.

    To me there is precious little that any debate on whether the "Duck Dynasty" is fake - you see, the company they built is real, the family is real, and they were rich before the show existed. You can't deny those facts.

    As to whether the show is scripted, well, we've been down this road before. Most "reality" shows are fake. In order to produce the shows and to have something interesting, the situations are either built from situations that really happened or they aren't. "House Hunters" was completely contrived.

    Yet, nothing in this discussion that I offered above is fake. This is about one man's opinion and the price he is paying for stating it. The media has really spun this story to make the reports FAKE and to take his words out of context.

    The argument if the "Duck Dynasty" show is faked or scripted has nothing to do with the arguments I offered above. Nice try, but these guys do believe in God before the show existed and they are genuinely eccentric. Whether you like their opinions or not, that does not mitigate that they are real guys with real opinions and real lives. These guys are not fictional. So there is nothing here "Duck Dynasty" deniers.

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